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Swine Flu in Mexico - Possible Pandemic?

Last post Tue, May 12 2009 6:16 PM by Ariba Ariba. 18 replies.
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  • Sun, Apr 26 2009 7:12 AM

    Swine Flu in Mexico - Possible Pandemic?

    Anyone read these headlines ... and is there concern for tourism/for those travelling to the coastal areas?  We cruise to Progresso and Cozumel on June 27th.....Surprise

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090426/hl_nm/us_flu_31

     Debbie



  • Sun, Apr 26 2009 7:29 AM In reply to

    • joan
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    Re: Swine Flu in Mexico - Possible Pandemic?

     

    DebbyDee  We had barely heard of it until yesterday here in Texas.  Now it is all over the news.  There have been three confirmed cases in Texas but over 60 Mexican people have already died.  I don't know if they are premature in calling in a possible pandemic but I see people in Mexico City are wearing masks and are not congregating in the plazas like they normally do.  It seems like the cases in Mexico are more severe than here in Texas.  They are tell people to wash their hands frequently to avoid getting it.  We usually go to Mexico on the Conquest and Ecstasy but I think until I heard more about how serious it is I might think about staying on the Ship.  Then again, it might all blow over by time you leave.  Keep listening to the news and read the newspapers to keep informed.
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  • Sun, Apr 26 2009 7:37 AM In reply to

    Re: Swine Flu in Mexico - Possible Pandemic?

    I wonder, if this outbreak does become an epedemic ... how Carnival would address their planned travel to the Mexican destinations?

    DebbyDee



  • Sun, Apr 26 2009 7:48 AM In reply to

    • joan
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    Re: Swine Flu in Mexico - Possible Pandemic?

    I guess we will have to wait and see.  You have a little time until your cruise to see if this all blows over.  I know we are ready to book our next cruise but think this will be on the Eastern leg of the Conquest.  We have taken it six times to Mexico but want to try something a little different this time except we have been to Nassau several times and it isn't my favorite ports.  I wish they could take the ships to different ports coming out of Galveston.  It is so convenient for us.  Our last cruise was on the Miracle to the southern caribbean and it was wonderful.  It is just so darned costly to drive to Florida with all the expenses involved.

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    Carnival Ecstasy 5/30/09
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    Carnival Conquest 1/27/08
    Carnival Conquest 12/2/07
    Carnival Ecstasy 9/17/07
    Carnival Triumph 2/10/07
    Carnival Conquest 11/12/06
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    Carnival Conquest 11/14/04
    Carnival Elation 1/11/04
    Carnival Conquest 2/16/03
    Carnival Celebration 11/24/01
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  • Sun, Apr 26 2009 9:27 AM In reply to

    Re: Swine Flu in Mexico - Possible Pandemic?

    DebbyDee:
    if this outbreak does become an epedemic ... how Carnival would address their planned travel to the Mexican destinations?
    It is not only traveling to Mexico .. it is also the people that have traveled to Mexico and are on the same cruise ship ...


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  • Sun, Apr 26 2009 9:36 AM In reply to

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    I head out on the Glory on May 2nd so am really watching this. We are to go to Cozamel, Costa Maya. I imagine if it got REAL bad, Carnival would go elsewhere OR we would just stay at sea??? Tiffany
  • Sun, Apr 26 2009 10:23 AM In reply to

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    I am hoping that Carnvial comes out with an official statement regarding this very soon.  Don't get me wrong, I really do have all the faith in the world in Carnival, so I'm not going to lose any sleep over this.  However, I would like to know what Carnival's 'Plan B' would be in case this outbreak continues to worsen ... Confused.

     DebbyDee



  • Sun, Apr 26 2009 11:01 AM In reply to

    Re: Swine Flu in Mexico - Possible Pandemic?

    That is how I feel. Just like to know there is some sort of thinking going on. This is my first cruise so I don't 'have faith' but I know business is business so the show goes on...... somehow! LOL
  • Sun, Apr 26 2009 2:30 PM In reply to

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    sweetgem37:
    That is how I feel. Just like to know there is some sort of thinking going on. This is my first cruise so I don't 'have faith' but I know business is business so the show goes on...... somehow! LOL

     

    LOL, this is our first cruise also!  I have faith in Carnival for several reasons.  First off -- my daughter and her family just came back from a Carnival cruise to the Bahamas and they cannot say enough great things about Carnival.  Also, my husband's siblings are all frequent cruisers, and they have been well pleased with the Carnival cruises they have taken.  And ... last but not least .... Carnival is in business to make travelers happy.  It simply wouldn't be 'good business' for them to have a cruise ship full of unhappy travelers - so it is their top priority to give us the best (and safest) travel experience possible.

     I simply need to avoid tuning into the news networks.  I understand the situation has now been labeled as "The Swine Flu Crisis", and, according to the media, the entire world is at risk (.... and I'm travelling to the epicenter of it all!!! ...... aaaaaugh!!!Tongue Tied)!!!

    On that cheery note,

    DebbyDee

    WinkI need one of those drinks in the Monkey Head ... doesn't alcohol protect you from germs????



  • Sun, Apr 26 2009 2:56 PM In reply to

    Re: Swine Flu in Mexico - Possible Pandemic?

    I know I JUST SAID that I was going to avoid the news networks Embarrassed... but I found this on MSNBC's website:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30410491/

     I'm hoping that this is simply being blown out of proportion by the media.

    DebbyDee



  • Sun, Apr 26 2009 3:01 PM In reply to

    Re: Swine Flu in Mexico - Possible Pandemic?

    DebbyDee:

    I know I JUST SAID that I was going to avoid the news networks Embarrassed... but I found this on MSNBC's website:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30410491/

     I'm hoping that this is simply being blown out of proportion by the media.

    DebbyDee

     

     

    Aren't most things blown out of proportion by the  media?  In the "old days" news came on at 6 and 11 pm for half an hour or so...now they have 24 hours a day of tv time to fill...plus a gazillion websites.

     

     

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  • Sun, Apr 26 2009 3:17 PM In reply to

    • lwolfson
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    Re: Swine Flu in Mexico - Possible Pandemic?

     This just in.

    US declares public health emergency for swine flu

     

    WASHINGTON – The U.S. declared a public health emergency Sunday to deal with the emerging new swine flu, much like the government does to prepare for approaching hurricanes.

    Officials reported 20 U.S. cases of swine flu in five states so far, with the latest in Ohio and New York. Unlike in Mexico where the same strain appears to be killing dozens of people, cases in the United State have been mild — and U.S. health authorities can't yet explain why.

    "As we continue to look for cases, we are going to see a broader spectrum of disease," predicted Dr. Richard Besser, acting chief of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. "We're going to see more severe disease in this country."

    At a White House news conference, Besser and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano sought to assure Americans that health officials are taking all appropriate steps to minimize the impact of the outbreak.

    Top among those is declaring the public health emergency. As part of that, Napolitano said roughly 12 million doses of the drug Tamiflu will be moved from a federal stockpile to places where states can quickly get their share if they decide they need it. Priority will be given to the five states with known cases so far: California, Texas, New York, Ohio and Kansas.

    Napolitano called the emergency declaration standard operating procedure — one was declared recently for the inauguration and for flooding. She urged people to think of it as a "declaration of emergency preparedness."

    "Really that's what we're doing right now. We're preparing in an environment where we really don't know ultimately what the size of seriousness of this outbreak is going to be."

    CDC: http://www.cdc.gov

    This is an official
    CDC Health Advisory
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    April 25, 2009, 3:00 EST (03:00 PM EDT) CDCHAN-000281-2009-04-25-ALT-N
    Investigation and Interim Recommendations:
    Swine Influenza (H1N1)
    CDC, in collaboration with public health officials in California and Texas, is investigating cases of febrile respiratory illness caused by swine influenza (H1N1) viruses. As of 11 AM (EDT) April 25, 2009, 8 laboratory confirmed cases of Swine Influenza infection have been confirmed in the United States. Four cases have been reported in San Diego County, California. Two cases have been reported in Imperial County California. Two cases have been reported in Guadalupe County, Texas. Of the 8 persons with available data, illness onsets occurred March 28-April 14, 2009. Age range was 7-54 y.o. Cases are 63% male.
    The viruses contain a unique combination of gene segments that have not been reported previously among swine or human influenza viruses in the U.S. or elsewhere. At this time, CDC recommends the use of oseltamivir or zanamivir for the treatment of infection with swine influenza viruses. The H1N1 viruses are resistant to amantadine and rimantadine but not to oseltamivir or zanamivir. It is not anticipated that the seasonal influenza vaccine will provide protection against the swine flu H1N1 viruses.
    CDC has also been working closely with public health officials in Mexico, Canada and the World Health Organization (WHO). Mexican public health authorities have reported increased levels of respiratory disease, including reports of severe pneumonia cases and deaths, in recent weeks. CDC is assisting public health authorities in Mexico by testing specimens and providing epidemiological support. As of 11:00 AM (EDT) April 25, 2009, 7 specimens from Mexico at CDC have tested positive for the same strain of swine influenza A (H1N1) as identified in U.S. cases. However, no clear data are available to assess the link between the increased disease reports in Mexico and the confirmation of swine influenza in a small number of specimens. WHO is monitoring international cases. Further information on international cases may be found at: http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_04_24/en/index.html
    Clinicians should consider swine influenza infection in the differential diagnosis of patients with febrile respiratory illness and who 1) live in San Diego or Imperial counties, California, or Guadalupe County, Texas, or traveled to these counties or 2) who traveled recently to Mexico or were in contact with persons who had febrile respiratory illness and were in one of the three U.S. counties or Mexico during the 7 days preceding their illness onset.
    Patients who meet these criteria should be tested for influenza, and specimens positive for influenza should be sent to public health laboratories for further characterization. Clinicians who suspect swine influenza virus infections in humans should obtain a nasopharyngeal swab from the patient, place the swab in a viral transport medium, refrigerate the specimen, and then contact their state or local health department to facilitate transport and timely diagnosis at a state public health laboratory. CDC requests that state public health laboratories promptly send all influenza A specimens that cannot be subtyped to the CDC, Influenza Division, Virus Surveillance and Diagnostics Branch Laboratory.
    Persons with febrile respiratory illness should stay home from work or school to avoid spreading infections (including influenza and other respiratory illnesses) to others in their communities. In addition, frequent hand washing can lessen the spread of respiratory illness.
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  • Sun, Apr 26 2009 3:34 PM In reply to

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    This time last year I had to seek medical consent to cruise in June '08, due to a pre-existing illness.  So prior to scheduling the May 2009 cruise to Alaska, I had to again obtain permission.  Now with the Swine Flu, (also in New York), perhaps this is why I always purchase cruise insurance.   And for what insurance cannot cover, me and mine have been saying and sending prayers for everyone in Mexico and beyond.  Perhaps we all should!

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  • Sun, Apr 26 2009 3:34 PM In reply to

    • 4bolts
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    Re: Swine Flu in Mexico - Possible Pandemic?

    in the MSN article there were 10 new zealand students who returned from Mexico that have been diagnosed.

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  • Sun, Apr 26 2009 4:01 PM In reply to

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    They just confirmed the 8 students from New York that went to mexico for a school trip now have Swine flu!

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