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Hurricane Bill Heading Straight for Canada/New England Coast

Last post Wed, Aug 26 2009 3:33 PM by lovecarnival. 13 replies.
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  • Sat, Aug 22 2009 1:45 PM

    • Walt
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    Hurricane Bill Heading Straight for Canada/New England Coast

    I was just hearing that Hurricane Bill is now heading straight for the New England and Newfoundland coast.  That's the Triumph cruise area.

    Does anyone know what the Triumph is doing because of this?  Has it changed or modified its course?


  • Sat, Aug 22 2009 1:55 PM In reply to

    Re: Hurricane Bill Heading Straight for Canada/New England Coast

    Walt:

    I was just hearing that Hurricane Bill is now heading straight for the New England and

     

    Newfoundland coast.  That's the Triumph cruise area.

    Does anyone know what the Triumph is doing because of this?  Has it changed or modified its course?

    This was posted on Carnival's Website:

    August 21, 2009 – 6:00 PM We are closely monitoring the progress of Hurricane Bill. All of our ships are operating at a safe distance from the storm. Our number one priority is the safety and comfort of our guests and crew.

    The Carnival Triumph cruise that departed from New York on August 20 will cancel the scheduled call in Saint John. The ship will now navigate a safe course away from the storm and return to New York on Monday as scheduled.

    We are not anticipating changes to any other itineraries at this time including the Carnival Triumph cruise departing from New York on August 24. We will update this information if any new information is available.

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  • Sat, Aug 22 2009 1:58 PM In reply to

    Re: Hurricane Bill Heading Straight for Canada/New England Coast

    I answered you, but it went to moderation.  There is a travel advisory posted on Carnival's Website.  I tried to copy & paste it here, but didn't work.  It'll probably show up later.  But you can go check it out there.

    They are not stopping in St. John, and are keeping out of the way, but plan on docking on Monday in New York as scheduled, unless the situation worsens.

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  • Sat, Aug 22 2009 2:09 PM In reply to

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    Re: Hurricane Bill Heading Straight for Canada/New England Coast

    Ah.  Your moderated post will show up sometime next week.  Zip it!

     

    Thanks, I never thought of checking Carnival's website.  Even though my own cruise on the Triumph was weeks ago, I was just curious if a ship weathers such a storm while in a port, or out at sea.  I guess the Triumph is handling this storm, while out at sea.  I would be very interested in reading about it, once the passengers return home.

     

    I'll admit I had thought that a Canadian cruise would be safe from Hurricanes.  I guess not.


  • Sat, Aug 22 2009 2:20 PM In reply to

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    I really think those big ships are safer at sea, cause they can "outrun the storm".  I've never heard of one being docked during a hurricane if they can help it.  I would think a lot more damage would be done at a dock, just from banging into the dock and land, than riding it out at sea.

    But, last year, during Hurricane Ike, I watched Carnival's website like a hawk, cause I was sailing on the Ecstasy 2 months later, and they kept you updated there real well.  There was also a lot of discussion on the boards here about it, so between the two, I imagine it will be the same this year.

    I hope we have a mile hurricane season this year, and that Bill doesn't hit land at all!

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  • Sat, Aug 22 2009 2:37 PM In reply to

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    Re: Hurricane Bill Heading Straight for Canada/New England Coast

    doodlebug:

    I really think those big ships are safer at sea, cause they can "outrun the storm".  I've never heard of one being docked during a hurricane if they can help it.  I would think a lot more damage would be done at a dock, just from banging into the dock and land, than riding it out at sea.

    That is what I heard too, but the counter point was that it is easier to evacuate your passengers to an inland hotel while in a port, than to evacuate your passengers to the life boats while at sea.  

    I am not writing that I know the answer, nor am I writing that Carnival is making bad choices.


  • Sat, Aug 22 2009 2:39 PM In reply to

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    Re: Hurricane Bill Heading Straight for Canada/New England Coast

    Hi there:

    I'm a Canadian Maritimer living in the flat land of the wild prairies right now but I can tell you that we get our share of all of "your" Hurricanes..lol. Although we usually get the tail end meaning really high tides, overland flooding and high winds. St. John would be particularly dangerous for any ship as the Bay of Fundy already has the highest tides in the world. I'm from Cape Breton and my family called me to say that they are all heading out to the beach to enjoy a hot sunny day wtih all of the high waves and surf that Bill is sending their way.  I wish I was there :( 

     

    and just a follow up. I've just been told that all of the ferries between Nova Scotia and Newfoundland as well as N.S and Prince Edward Island are being suspended for 24 hrs starting at 8pm tonight. They are really expecting a walloping? If I get some video of the waves, etc I will post

  • Sat, Aug 22 2009 3:30 PM In reply to

    Re: Hurricane Bill Heading Straight for Canada/New England Coast

    The hurricane is moving at 23 mph and the Triumph can cruise at 23 knots.  After finding a conversion chart (5 knots = 5.8 mph); yes, the ship can outrun the storm.

  • Sat, Aug 22 2009 3:43 PM In reply to

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    Re: Hurricane Bill Heading Straight for Canada/New England Coast

    Walt:
    I was just curious if a ship weathers such a storm while in a port, or out at sea.

    I believe I read somewhere, they pull out of port because it is typically safer for the ship, crew and any passengers. This makes sense, given the close proximity of items, that could damage the ship flying around the port, the strain on being tied to a dock, with heavy waves and wind, etc.

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  • Sat, Aug 22 2009 3:52 PM In reply to

    Re: Hurricane Bill Heading Straight for Canada/New England Coast

    When a hurricane threatens a port before sailing, they make a decision the day before departure. I would suppose they bug out if necessary. Hurricanes can suddenly intensify and become killers. Ask any of us who have weathered a cat 4 or 5. Of course, I'm still here in Miami.Stick out tongue

  • Sat, Aug 22 2009 6:45 PM In reply to

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    Re: Hurricane Bill Heading Straight for Canada/New England Coast

    Patrick:

    The hurricane is moving at 23 mph and the Triumph can cruise at 23 knots.  After finding a conversion chart (5 knots = 5.8 mph); yes, the ship can outrun the storm.

    Since the hurricane is moving north, the Triumph would have to also head dead north, and keep right on going at full speed until the storm dies out, or the Triumph runs out of ocean.

    Plus, that speed difference isn't very comforting to me.  The hurricane would only have to speed up slightly, and it would overtake the Triumph.


  • Sat, Aug 22 2009 11:24 PM In reply to

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    An Arctic Circle cruise would be a first for Carnival! Then, given global warming, it could easily coast to the south.

    Noted earlier by another poster, the Triumph is heading to dock in New York after cancelling a stop in St Johns and the current path of the storm.

  • Mon, Aug 24 2009 9:49 AM In reply to

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    I was suppose to be on the Triumph coming back into port today. We decided not to go after hearing at that time it was still going to be a Cat 4. It was going to be my 11th cruise on Carnival. My only cruise line I have ever been on. I never thought of getting cruise insurance. A. because weather was not covered, and alos because all weather "experts" were saying due to el nino it was not going this way. I kept track of it online to see where the ship would go. As expected it was not going to Canada. Instead the Triumph went out to sea about a hundred miles past the Cape and back again. It was near port for two days. I am very discouraged with Carnival. There were 20ft + waves out there. The last time I was on a cruise to Bermuda we had waves that hight and I fell in the bathroom. I did not want to chance that again. I felt even though they say they will not put people in danger, which I know they wouldn't they should have canceled the cruise. I am very dissapointed.

  • Wed, Aug 26 2009 3:33 PM In reply to

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    ive just returned from the cruise on aug. 24 the cruise was absolotely fantasti!!! ok we didnt stop at st. john as expected but we were far from any bad weather!!! the sun was always shining and hot as can be, my family and i enjoyed -and had seriously amazing time!!!  the staff and captain were amazing!! the captain new exacly were to had a bit bumpy but not to a point of getting sick-i am sensetive.  i cant wait to book my next cruise with carnival.    it is sad that you decided to cancel your cruise and as i understood there were not many complaints from passangers.

     

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