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Rec'd refund for 9/11 cruise not taken

Last post 10-27-2008 8:29 AM by rwilymz. 23 replies.
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  • 10-04-2008 9:23 PM

    • cgf
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    • Joined on 09-10-2008
    • Posts 10

    Rec'd refund for 9/11 cruise not taken

    After writing a letter to Carnival, I an please that my family and I received a full refund for the cruise we elected not to go on due to the hurricane.

    I hope everyone had the same good fortune as I. In the future I will stick to my usual cruise time of May-June. 

     

  • 10-07-2008 3:45 PM In reply to

    Re: Rec'd refund for 9/11 cruise not taken

    Hi CGF,

    Thanks for the information.  I just finished writing my letter and plan on putting it in the mail today.  I hope I have the same good fortune as you because I did not go on the 9/11/08 Ecstasy cruise either.  How long did it take to appear back onto your card?  I will NEVER book during hurricane season again either.

     

     

  • 10-08-2008 8:18 AM In reply to

    • cgf
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    • Posts 10

    refund for 9/11 cruise not taken

    I received it on 10/2. So about 2 weeks after they received my letter.

     

    Good Luck.

  • 10-08-2008 11:19 PM In reply to

    • Lori
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    • College Station
    • Posts 38

    Re: refund for 9/11 cruise not taken

    I feel it's in good business for Carnival to give a full refund for a cruise not taken (especially in the wake of Ike).  I got a full refund for the Sept 15 cruise not taken for obvious reasons.  However, my fiancee and I really wanted a 7 day so we opted and chose Royal Caribbean thinking Carnival (even with the money they have...but in these economic times feeling Carnival might be taking a serious financial hit and didn't want to book with a cruise line possibly fearing bankruptcy) might not be the best option for right now.....both 7 day iteneraries cost about the same....do the math.  We booked a 7 day on Royal with a balcony for $699.  Not too bad.  We will try Carnival in the future....just not right now.  It's not Carnival's fault a hurricane hit....but it's also in Carnival's best benefit never to book cruises in Texas during hurricane season.  Carnival should sail the European route during the hurricane season....it's just not good business to folks paying any money to book and sail during a hurricane season knowing the possible implications and lawsuits it could face. 

  • 10-08-2008 11:40 PM In reply to

    Re: refund for 9/11 cruise not taken

    Lori,

    Why do you think Carnival is facing bankruptcy?  I don't understand what you are trying to say in your post.  We have taken 4 cruises during hurricane season, all with Carnival, all out of FL, (none out of TX) and luckily never had any disruptions due to hurricanes.  So why should they only sail European routes during hurricane season?  Other cruise lines don't move all of their ships to Europe during hurricane season.  Please explain. :)

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  • 10-11-2008 1:01 AM In reply to

    • Lori
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    • College Station
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    Re: refund for 9/11 cruise not taken

    Well, I feel it's just not in good business sense (at least here in Texas) for ANY cruise line to sail during hurricane season.  The ONLY cruise line which sails out of Texas during hurricane season is Carnival.  Princess and Royal Caribbean don't....and for good reason....there is just too much at stake.  Hurricane season is always a "hit or miss" and luckilly you are one of the lucky ones to sail (during hurricane season).  I know during that season it's always "hit or miss" and Carnival (like any other cruise line) is in the business to make money....but I feel not at the expense of a potential of its customers.  Of all those folks they let sail out (and I know those folks elected to stay to cruise) when Galveston was under mandatory evacuation Carnival should have thought about their customer point blank.  So knowing how a customer will react when they come back home after their port of home is destroyed the customer is going to get mad and many will choose a "legal" transport of recourse.  Carnival has got to have been bound to have taken a big financial "hit" out of this.  Perhaps I was wrong fearing bankruptcy...but I'm sure Carnival has got to have lost out alot of money they probably should not have given better customer service.

     Which brings me to another issue.  Carnival just wants to make money.  Like I said, that's what every cruise line (like Carnival) is in the business to do.  However, don't put their customers at potential stake and cruise out of a port knowing that a catastrophe after a hurricane is what they will come back home to.  Just CANCEL the whole trip and either reimburse full cruise fare or give them the option to rebook at a later date with no penalties charged.  Don't just sail out and hope to get lucky.  Customers are going to be truly upset.  I'd rather have my trip cancelled (like it happened for me) than to lose valuables and go through the "red tape" with insurance companies just for a mere vacation they probably never got to fully enjoy on the trip to begin with (knowing what was going on with Ike in Galveston).  Then Carnival could never even get their mess together with the passengers on board regarding their trip back home or even the status of their cars to begin with.

     So if Carnival wants to make good relations with the people in any hurricane region and sail out during the prime time of that season they need to be better prepared to handle the outcome and not choose the low road.  Carnival just chooses to "play dumb" with certain and handle others that "would've sailed" after a hurricane and play fair.  I will tell you I feel lucky to have even gotten a refund....you were lucky and did so yourself.  Those folks on the boat...some got a refund and others didn't (cruise insurance or not). 

    During hurricane season Carnival should just not choose to sail out of Texas here.  If passengers truly want to sail they'll wait (and save even more money on the personal side if they choose for more trip excursions or boat goodies) rather than sail out and "hope" to get lucky if no hurricane happens to touch home port.  There is a great chance one season there will be no hurricanes - then other seasons there might be a whole slew of them - that's all a part of this great global warming trend. 

    So, in the end, it's all down to basic customer service.  Apparantly Carnival is lacking a good deal in it.  It's also "buyer beware."  With enough "sail outs" during prime hurricane season, and with just enough catastrophes, Carnival (in any hurricane region) will have to take enough hits to either make their cruises more expensive to the masses or face other recourse.  Like I said, I was wrong in saying they will fear bankruptcy, but they will feel a major loss. 

    I don't feel like sailing with a line with this much stress under their belt (given the financial state of the US or even the customer service they give to certain who were affected by a hurricane loss at home port).  I MAY sail with them in the future...but not during a hurricane season.  The way they handled their customers during Ike is enough to sicken me for a while.  I know those folks got a cruise and got to sail (and get a few extra days to holiday with) but not at the expense of losing transportation to work (which got them the money to be able to pay for the cruise to begin with). I know insurance will "pay off" those vehicles but it's still a total loss.....cars are credited margins and always lose value.  Most of those folks insurance companies paid off their cars for far less than what the cars were worth (and unless these customers have no debt outside of a car payment...they had to have taken a huge financial hit in order to use that "payoff" as a down payment on another car they will have to take another huge debt out for - even worse if their car is close to being paid off by themselves). 

    Carnival is on shaky ground with me...and until they can get their selves together I won't sail with them again. 

     

     

     

  • 10-14-2008 1:08 PM In reply to

    Re: refund for 9/11 cruise not taken

    Forewarning:

    I'm in a bad mood today and not prone to suffering fools politely.

     

    So ... "Lori" ... you're up.

     

    Lori:
    I feel it's just not in good business sense (at least here in Texas) for ANY cruise line to sail during hurricane season.

    Your "feelings" are more or less meaningless.

    How many airlines fly out of Denver in the winter?  Or Minneapolis?  Or Chicago?  You've got the exact same condition with airlines/winter travel as you do cruise lines/summer travel.  The airline is putting ... how do you mangle the English? ... "the expense of a potential of its customers" in the same position: you fly in less than prime conditions when you take off when it's 20 below and snow in the air.

     

    Do airlines routinely lose money because of weenies and crybabies saying "Boo hoo hoo! We had tickets and we had to fly or lose our money, and we felt unsafe in the snowstorm!!"?  No.  They lose money because of late departures and outlandish maintenance costs and over-priced union labor, but not because of putting "their customers at potential stake". 

     

    And what about those who flew out of Boston a few winters ago only to come home and discover that a blizzard flattened their carport, took the electricity out for a week ... they have no car, damage to their house, and the place reeks of rotting meat that thawed in the freezer.  How is that materially different from those who cruise only to come back to hurricane damage?

     

    Answer: it's not.

     

    So, in the end, it's all down to basic customer service.

     

    No, sweetie, it's all a matter of immature customers wishing to blame their real injuries, and to trasfer responsibility for their phobias and paranoias, to others. 

    Neener neener
  • 10-14-2008 1:22 PM In reply to

    • Bob
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    • Massachusetts
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    Re: refund for 9/11 cruise not taken

    wow!!!  Well said.  I and my family have sailed, late hurricane season.  Never had a problem. (knock on wood).  We leave Miami and I prefer to go early Oct.  The ships seem to be less crowded, I am sure they are not, but that's how I feel.  Carnival has always been good to us and a boat load of fun, no pun intended.  I will always cruise with Carnival until something turns me away. 

  • 10-17-2008 4:09 PM In reply to

    Re: refund for 9/11 cruise not taken

    Lori, dont pay too much attention to rwilymz - he seems to be a troll that looks for people to attack on the Carnival site. He especially seems to take issue with those of us who dared and did get 9/11 cruise refunds which has nothing to do with him,  I have no idea why he is so bothered about it. If I or anyone else asked for a refund and got a refund, so what.
  • 10-18-2008 4:13 PM In reply to

    • joan
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    • Joined on 09-10-2006
    • Posts 497

    Re: Rec'd refund for 9/11 cruise not taken

    I read many publications about Carnival and never have any mentioned the possibility of them going bankrupt.  Texas is not the only state that experiencing hurricanes.  We have been in the tailend of a hurricane on RCCL out of Florida.  Carnival always seems to do the right thing financially for their customers.  We have had two issues where they came though with flying colors.  This is the reason we have sailed with them 11 times with another booked in 51 days.  They are a multimillion dollar corporation and one hurricane will not put them into bankruptcy, don't spread untrue rumors.  Hurricanes occur each year from the east coast into the Gulf of Mexico, Ike just happened to be unusually big and strong.  We came into Galveston just hours before Ike hit.  I do feel badly for people leaving on their cruise Sept 11.  Their vehicles left in Galveston didn't make it.  That being said, if we had been booked on that cruise, I don't believe we would have left our vehicle on the island knowing what can happen in Galveston.  We have and will continue to cruise Carnival.  RCCL would have run into the same situation had their ship been docked in Galveston.  I tend to agree with rwilymz and I do not attack posters.

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  • 10-20-2008 9:39 AM In reply to

    Re: refund for 9/11 cruise not taken

    Belinda:
    Lori, dont pay too much attention to rwilymz

    Particularly if you want to continue your righteous indignation! 

     

    Belinda:
    I have no idea why he is so bothered about it.

    I insist on fairness.  I insist on maturity.  I insist on rationality and reasonableness, and none of the people who make [and have made] the grand sweeping denunciations are any of those things.

     

    They -- and you, Belinda -- are petty, petty childish weenies who pout and have tantrums until they get their way.  And if they insist on acting that way in a public forum [as is their right, I suppose] then I will insist on calling them on it [as is my own right].

     

    Now, seeing as you get to carry on in public as if you were a five year old having a meltdown in a grocery cart, you ought to be happy.

    And seeing as I get to scold you as the petulant brat you are, I ought to be happy.

     

    I'm happy.  Why aren't you?

    Neener neener
  • 10-20-2008 9:50 AM In reply to

    Re: refund for 9/11 cruise not taken

    Bwahahahaha, you crack me up you stupid weener weener boy. Your nothing but a troll who has nothing better to do than to look for topic to post your stupid rants and unwanted opinions -  what are you 12 years old? I could post a topic about what a beautiful day it is and you would have something nasty to say about that, how sad it must be for someone to be so bitter.
  • 10-20-2008 10:04 AM In reply to

    Re: refund for 9/11 cruise not taken

    Belinda:
    ... you stupid weener weener boy... what are you 12 years old?
     

    That's irony, right there.

    As is this:

    Your nothing but a troll who has nothing better to do than to look for topic to post your stupid rants and unwanted opinions

     

    Do you actually have the capacity to notice if it's a beautiful day?  Or, since "beautiful day" tends to make the insects come out, would you insist on getting your money back on that, as well?

    Neener neener
  • 10-20-2008 10:17 AM In reply to

    Re: refund for 9/11 cruise not taken

    YAWN, you have become downright redundant and boring.

  • 10-20-2008 10:39 AM In reply to

    Re: refund for 9/11 cruise not taken

    Alright folks.  Don't cruise out of California at all.  We know they are prone to earthquakes.

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